Brahmin then and now

Tuesday, 17 December 2013

Brahmin then and now

Dear all

Brahmin then and now and the views expressed which deserve the real distinction between the varna and the existing caste.

Prabhu Pada and Madwa views:

1 Lord Kṛṣṇa says, karmaṇām, karmaṇāṁsiddhim. How in the material world people are working? He is analyzing the process of different occupation. What is that?

cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ
guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ
tasya kartāram api māṁ
viddhy akartāram avyayam
[Bg. 4.13]

?" Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ: "According to quality and according to work." That division in the human society, according to quality and according to work, is there in everywhere, everywhere in the world, not only everywhere in the world, but everywhere in the universe. God's creation cannot be stopped.Brahmajānāti iti brāhmaṇaḥ. Brahmin, it is English transcription. But real word is brāhmaṇa, brāhmaṇa.And wherefrom this brāhmaṇa word comes? Brahmajānāti iti brāhmaṇaḥ. That means one who knows the spirit, the spiritual. One who has got complete knowledge of the spiritual world, he is calledbrāhmaṇa.

2 And what is that quality? Janmanā jāyateśūdraḥ. Janmanā jāyate śūdraḥ: "Anyone who takes his birth, by his birth he's a śūdra." Śūdra means the lowest, in the lowest order. Everyone. Even if he is born in the family of a brāhmaṇa, he is to be considered as a śūdra, janmanā, by birth.So janmanājāyate śūdraḥ saṁskārād bhaved dvijaḥ. Birth. Birth is not all, everything. The culture, saṁskāra.Saṁskāra means culture

3 There is some purificatory measures, which is called garbhādhāna-saṁskāra. Garbhādhāna means pregnancy, the cultural ceremony before making the mother pregnant. And it is enjoined, you will find in the Bhāgavata, that any family, the brāhmaṇas, thekṣatriyas and vaiśyas, if they give up thisgarbhādhāna-saṁskāra, birth-giving ceremony, then that family turns immediately to the classification of the śūdras So this is the system of varṇāśrama-dharma. This is the system. The whole idea is that everyone should be given the chance of being liberated in this very life

4 You can become a qualified brāhmaṇaprovided you abide by the qualification of a qualifiedbrāhmaṇa You can become a brāhmaṇa." "So what are the conditions?" , "The preliminary four conditions." "What are these conditions?" "Now,striya-sūnā-pāna-dyūta yatra pāpaś catur-vidhāḥ:[SB 1.17.38] You cannot have any illicit connection with woman, you cannot have any intoxication habit, you cannot indulge in gambling or unnecessary sporting, and you cannot live on animal food."

5    yasya yal laksanam proktam
     pumso varnabhivyanjakam
     yad anyatrapi drsyeta
      tat tenaiva vinirdiset

"If one shows the symptoms of being a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya or sudra, as described above, even if he has appeared in a different class, he should be accepted according to those symptoms of classification." (Srimad Bhagavatam 7.11.35)

6 "In Kali-yuga, all four varnas are devoid of character and proper behavior and are addicted to sin. The brahmanas are devoid of Vedic knowledge and sacrifice. Giving up the five sacrifices mentioned in the Vedas and all brahminical behavior and consciousness, they engage in inferior activities. They collect charity to satisfy their unlimited appetite for sense enjoyment. The brahmanas of Kali-yuga are characterized by the qualities of lust and cruelty. Unholy in deed and thought, they take pleasure in malice and envy. These professional thieves blaspheme the Vedas, drink liquor and exploit women for sex, taking great pleasure in adultery and fornication. They accept extremely sinful means of maintaining their lives and, posing assadhus, dress in red cloth and wear long hair and beards. In this way the wretched so-called brahmanas of Kali-yuga accept the dharma ofsudras." (PADMA PURANAM)

6 sudrena hi samas tavad yavad vede na jayate

"One should know that until a brahmana is qualified in the Vedas, he is on the same level as a sudra." (Manu2.172)

7 Jatis - Why so many Differences ?
(HinduDharma: Varna Dharma For Universal Well-Being)

There are four varnas - Brahmin, Ksatriyas, Vaisyas and Sudras. We identify "varnas" with "jatis". In point of fact, varna and jati are not the same. The varnas are only the four mentioned above, that is Brahmins, Ksatriyas, Vaisyas and Sudras. Within each there are many jatis. Among Brahmins there are Ayyars, Ayyangars, Raos, and so on. In the fourth varna there are Mudaliars, Pillais, Reddis, Naikkars, Nayudus, Gaundars, Padayacis. In common parlance jati is used for varna. I am also using the two as interchangeable terms. The sastras lay down separate rites and practices for the four jatis (that is the four varnas). This means that within the fold of the same religion, Hinduism, there are numerous differences as JATIS.

8 Hence VARNA AND JATI ARE NOT EVEN SIMILAR. PROFESSION UNDER VARNA DENOTES THE KULA, WHETHER BRAHMIN OR SHATRIYA OR VYSYA OR SUDRA. CASTE IS INSINUATED BY THE BRITISH AND AS WE ARE STRUCK TO THE LEGACY, HERE ALSO WE DO MAINTAIN THE ULTIMATE WORD. BRAHMIN THEN WAS CALLED "SAMI" AND NOW SAMI LOST THE LUSTRE.

K RAJARAM IRS 17^th dec 2013